At the time of this recording, it was tax season, that time that you've probably heard people say is the other one of the two things no one avoids (you know the other one)? But as much as we all have experience with taxes, how much experience do we have understanding the money that we have to pay taxes from? And among the church, at least in some people’s experiences, it’s been a sort of psychologically, emotionally polarizing topic. I mean really, is it ok to get money? We’re familiar with a number of things the Bible says about it, but in this conversation we hoped to carry on a candid discussion about what God’s people should understand about making money, the economics around it, and how in the end we might one day create a kind of ecosystem that displays God’s will on earth as it is in heaven.